Monday, 20 August 2012

2nd paragraph + First.


 The concept of Dresden as a contextual oddity stems from the belief that by February 1945 World War II was over. Dresden was long considered a target that was destroyed by just a single air raid, chosen at a time when the war was winding down and Irving makes the bold claim that Dresden was “The Virgin Target” in The Destruction of Dresden as a chapter name. This is done to further highlight the contextual contrast between the bombing of Dresden and the rest of the bomber war. Irving doesn't ignore other raids on the city but minimalises their impact and severity, stating, “The local inhabitants unanimously agreed among themselves that the bombing was the result of some unfortunate oversight by an allied navigator.”1

The above quote fits the other contextual problem that Dresden poses. Irving argues that Dresden was bombed in the last moments if World War II. Irving forgets to mention the Ardennes offensive, one of the main reasons for the renewed bomber offensive. The best he mentions is that, “When Stalin had failed to launch his major winter offensive during Hitler’s attack in the Ardennes, the Allies had sent to Moscow Eisenhower’s deputy.”2 Irving downplays the seriousness of the war at this point in time to fit his goal of creating guilt in the British psyche.

1D. Irving, Apocalypse 1945 The Destruction of Dresden, Focal Point, 1999, p. 90 (internet edition)
2Irving, Apocalypse, p. 110

Bit more for the essay.


 The concept of Dresden as a contextual oddity stems from the belief that by February 1945 World War II was over. Dresden was long considered a target that was destroyed by just a single air raid, chosen at a time when the war was winding down and Irving makes the bold claim that Dresden was “The Virgin Target” in The Destruction of Dresden as a chapter name. This is done to further highlight the contextual contrast between the bombing of Dresden and the rest of the bomber war, where he states, “The local inhabitants unanimously agreed among themselves that the bombing was the result of some unfortunate oversight by an allied navigator.”1
1D. Irving, Apocalypse 1945 The Destruction of Dresden, Focal Point, 1999, p. 90 (internet edition)

New Intro + beginning of 1st paragraph.


Discuss the different perspectives in the debate of the Bombing of Dresden.

The debate of bombing of Dresden can be split into two contemporary fields. The first is dominated by David Irving, Alexander McKee and Kurt Vonnegut who argue the terrible and horrendous crime of the bombing. The other field is made up primarily led by Frederick but also includes others such as Sebastian Cox and Hew Strachan. Four key areas can be identified as being cases for major debate work; the contextual view of the raid, the legitimacy of Dresden as a target, the legitimacy of the method which the city was bombed and casualty figures of the raid.


The concept of Dresden as a contextual oddity stems from the belief that by February 1945 World War II was over. Dresden was long considered a target that was destroyed by just a single air raid, chosen at a time when the war was winding down and Irving makes the bold claim that Dresden was “The Virgin Target” in The Destruction of Dresden..............

New Essay Question.

I have been attempting to do this Essay but I feel that current question is incompatible with the sources I have. Also, having pulled up my proposal from last March I believe that I have strayed too far from my original intentions and the purpose of my research. This would be detrimental to my project, my research and although David Irving is a significant part of the debate he is just one side. To ignore the other historians in this field simply by stating that they all wrote about history because David Irving wrote about it. This is entirely rudimentary and insulting to the credibility of the historians. I do not believe this post-modernist thinking is adequate when conducting any sort of history. Like Marxism, thinking narrow minded enough as to state that history can be defined into certain categories and theories is not entirely correct either. Making the assumption that history follows a pattern that will definitively reproduce itself in a manner that "things alike history will reoccur" is in itself outdated. Context is but one part of history and so I have prepared a new question for my essay. It is Discuss the different perspectives in the debate of the Bombing of Dresden.

New Introduction.

In light of the fact my old essay is jumbled and confusing. I am rewriting the vast majority to fit a much more linear argument, So here is it's introduction. 

      David Irving's book, The Destruction of Dresden, is the quite easily the most influential piece of literature on what is now the most controversial topic of the Second World War. Every piece of history in relation to the subject of the Dresden raids after his book is either a reaction to his book or misguidedly furthering his claims. Four key areas can be identified as been affected by Irving's work; the contextual view of the raid, the legitimacy of Dresden as a target, the legitimacy of the method which the city was bombed and casualty figures of the raid.

Small improvements on before. Nothing special.


Assess the impact of David Irving's book and the reaction of historians and the community to it.

David Irving's book, The Destruction of Dresden, is the quite easily the most influential piece of literature on what is now the most controversial topic of the Second World War. Every piece of history in relation to the subject of the Dresden raids after his book is either a reaction to his book or misguidedly furthering his claims.
Upon the release of his, The Destruction of Dresden, the historical and wider community were presented with history influenced by ideology. The evidence Irving presented formed future thought on the raids whilst they failed to look into Irving's background and see the importance of delving deeper into his sources. Kurt Vonnegut gladly quoted the Air Marshall Saundby's introduction of the 1963 edition of Irving's book to draw further comparisons between the dreadful demise of Dresden and the great air campaign of the Vietnam war.1 Irving's influence is far reaching and spreads into even the Cold War through Vonnegut's work.

David Irving's high level of success was unraveled by himself upon his venture to sue Penguin Publishing in the Lipstadt trial. This final bombing of his legitimacy as an historian was as grand as the city he portrayed in his book. Once the metaphoric dust had settled new writers, eager to correct the mistaken historiography, collected their sources and a new theory has prevailed. It can be quickly summarised as 'Industrial Dresden'.

Frederick Taylor's book Dresden Tuesday 13 February 1945 sets out to destroy the myths created by Irving of the raid in more than contemptuous manner.2 Taylor not only provides clear responses to Irving's work but also presents figures of the industrial might of Dresden. Taylor's book is a distinguishable response to the claims made by David Irving, Alexander McKee and Kurt Vonnegut. This is quite obvious when one considers that his introduction - or in simpler terms a section for an historians aims - specifically mentions these same figures and scornfully cuts down Vonnegut's "account" of the raids as "a figment of the imagination nonetheless." 3
The judgment of Irving and McKee are saved for the 2nd of the 3 Appendices of his book. The 2nd deals with the 'countless' dead in Dresden and offer his opinion on the casualties he does. McKee is dismissed soundly, describing his casualty guesses so, "McKee simply decided to double the number because he didn't think it sound like enough.".4 A statement considering that if McKee to stated that twice as many died due to the refugee problem. Logically he would have to assume that the numbers of refugee equalled or exceeded the original population (3 quarters of a million). This means that the administration would be on it's knees trying to accommodate this improbable influx of bodies, an unlikely situation considering the lack of evidence suggesting this. Taylor's dealing's with Irving involve two myths propagated by Irving, that of the strafing of civilians after the attack and of the casualty estimates of the attack that have been put forward by Irving. Taylor describes Irving as, "a university dropout"5, and went on to comment on those of Irving's caliber saying, "Those - still including Irving - who insist in the face of the documentary evidence that the deaths went into six figures." 6 The simple fact that Taylor set aside 3 appendices (29 pages in all) to deal with the misconceptions of Dresden specifically proves his attempt to disprove Irving. This proves that the academic world is still influenced by Irving's theories as Taylor is answering supporters of Irving still in 2003.

Kurt Vonnegut's novel was quite obviously affected by The Destruction of Dresden considering that it goes as far as to quite Irving's book.7 Vonnegut was an American survivor of the bombing and his adoption of Irving's clearly emphasizes the power of history and more importantly the need for an outside perspective to make judgments on historical concerns. Vonnegut's experiences as a POW during the bombing of Dresden, although a valuable insight into the bombing, made him more likely to accept Irving's findings. This should stress the need for distance for an historian from the event they are studying. One must still consider the reception of The Destruction of Dresden at the time of publishing as overwhelmingly favorably.

Perhaps the greatest of Irving's successes and greatest influences is his casualty estimations. These led to a wave of anti-British and anti-RAF sentiment throughout the academic and political world. This was fueled further by opposition to the Vietnam War and carpet bombing of Hanoi and the North Vietnam.8 Irving makes this statement in his 1999 edition of his book:
“The Germans were still making propaganda capital out of the raids on Dresden, although they were still under-estimating the death troll. The figure current in Berlin government circles was over three hundred thousand, and the Berlin authority responsible for welfare in blitzed cities was conservatively preparing for a final toll of 120,000 to half a million; although the numbers bulldozed into mass graves in Dresden exceeded thirty thousand already, as late as March 1945 a German official propaganda leaflet dropped on Italy still spoke only of the ‘ten thousand refugee children’ who had been killed.”9
Here is a prime example of firstly Irving's ideology overshadowing his methodology and the lack of sources available in the DDR in the 1960's. The political situation of Central Europe would have been to condescending of the west – and would be for next four decades – during Irving's time as a researcher in East Germany. The Cold War fear of capitalism prompted the East to hide it's vast archival secrets and in some cases misinform western interlopers, David Irving on of them. Any chance for Dresden's communist overlords to highlight the danger of the capitalist west was seized upon. The most interesting part of this quote is that Irving describes the propaganda ministry as, “under-estimating the death toll.”, which would seem to suggest that Nazi propaganda ministry has failed in it's sole purpose: propaganda.

The surprising and if not scary part of this is that the 1995 edition was published after the Lipstadt trial. The trial represented a turning point in the debate of Dresden. Past this point no successful publication has advanced the argument David Irving presented in 1963. Approaches to Dresden in the past decade have swung thanks primary to the fail of the USSR. The bounty of evidence buried in East German archives for well over half a century is staggering. It is now known that in all at least 127 factories existed in Dresden.10 These factories produced munitions, weapons and equipment for a punch drunk Wehrmacht. Manufacturers such as the Zeiss-Ikon AG had factories producing not just cameras and lenses but also bomb sights and time-delay fuses for Unter-Reichsmarine.11

In tune with the current thinking towards Dresden the bomber crews are finally beginning to get the respect they have deserved for such a long time. The unveiling of the statue of Sir Arthur Harris, Commander-in-chief of the RAF, is assuredly the beginning of this.12 Though criticism for the Queen was apparent for dedicating this statue the overwhelming sense of duty to defend the brave men who flew over German cities in the war. Anti-British ideas may have delayed the respect given to these men but they no longer impede a proud minister in the House of Commons or a politically timid monarch in the British Isles.

British heavy bomber crews who flew over Germany have waited 72 years to receive any official medal for they're bravery was due to, in Kevin Wilson's view, “post-war cynicism crept in to peer suspiciously round the corner of a hard-wrested peace.”13 However maybe the political influence of Iving's book isn't so bad. The western world, perhaps through guilt caused by the book, has contributed significantly to the restoration of Dresden’s monuments. Irving's ideological goal of restoring German pride may have succeeded in part. The Dresden monuments instead of representing British guilt have come to represent symbols of new European Unity.14













1K. Vonnegut, Slaughterhouse 5, Vintage, 2000, pp. 154-155 (originally published 1969, New York)
2F. Taylor, Dresden Tuesday 13 February 1945, Bloomsbury , 2005, p. 147
3Ibid., p. xi
4Ibid., p. 507
5Ibid., p. 504
6Ibid., p. 506
7Vonnegut, op. Cit, pp. 154-155
8Ibid., p.138
9D. Irving, Apocalypse 1945 The Destruction of Dresden, Focal Point, 1999, p. 312 (internet edition)
10Taylor, op. Cit, p.148
11Ibid., page 156
13K. Wilson, Men of Air The Doomed Youth of Bomber Command,, Phoenix, 2008, p. 398
14N. Lambourne, the Reconstruction of the City's Historic Monuments in P Addison and JA Crang (ed.), Firestorm: The bombing of Dresden, 1945, Ivan R. Dee, 2006, p. 160

Sunday, 19 August 2012

Essay Structure Plan

Extension Essay Plan: Dresden Debate Project.

1. Intro
                                                                                  Was it a war crime?
2. Was it a One Off Attack?

3.Was it a legitimate target?
                                                                                  Misconceptions of these lead to myths in popular
4.Was Dresden bombed legitimately?                            culture and history.

5. Why are the casualty figures important?

6. Conclusion

 2. - Irving - what did he say? - how did he influence debate?
     - McKee - same as above? Why does he stress the pain of the raid?

     - Frederick Taylor + others - how do they counter this argument? - the other bombing raids? why are the significant?

     - What does this mean for history? - Peter Geyl? biasm with Irving for his ideological views? Experiences of war for McKee? CONTEXT!!! Put the Allies into disreput?

 3. - Irving - "The Virgin Target" - descriptive language to emphasize horror of the raid, therefore to evoke sympathy.

     - McKee -aim is to show the terrible nature - .why does he do this?

     - Frederick Taylor - 127 factories - "Industrial Dresden"

     - Hew Strachan - significance of WW1 blockade to Dresden?

     - Communication Hub + context of the war? - Yalta, Battle of the Bulge?

 4. - Was Dresden bombed legitimately?

     - Irving - higher number of incendiaries. - P-51 Mustangs strafed civilians during post raid.

     - Taylor + other historians - British records show it was a regular amount compared to other raids - Taylor provides evidence to show the Mustang reports are unsubstantial - problems of memory as history.

 5. - Irving claims over 100,000, why does he ? what evidence does he use? ---> is it viable? Why doesn't he accept lower casualty figures?

     - McKee - what is his evidence? Assumes 70, 000 people died, not very Rankean - example of Irving's influnce, purpose +aim is flawed.

     - Taylor - Bombing campaign judged by guilty foot soldiers. What sources does he have that Irving didn't?

     - links to Irving to Neo-Nazism + holocaust + Atomic bombings, why does he try to make the connection - what hint of his methodology do we get?

     - Revising casualty figures - corrections of the past histories - Peter Geyl.

 6. - make definitive, conclusive answers to the question - did Irving's influence all or at least most of the debate? - what does the debate show about history?